Matt Frazier and Sid Garza-Hillman on the Sane and Happy Path to Change: PYP 154
Matt Frazier and Sid Garza-Hillman have teamed up to produce plant-based meal plans that are designed to get us to the point where we no longer need meal plans.
There’s a lot to unpack in that goal:
getting from dependence to independence
figuring out the steps to get us there
designing a community to support all the members
and much more…
I interviewed Matt, the No Meat Athlete, a couple of years ago. I remember that call well because I was using my cell phone, getting awful reception, but really enjoying the walk around my front yard while getting to know Matt.
Sid, I just found out about through his collaboration with Matt. As soon as I checked out his resume and podcast, I realized that not being familiar with his work put me in the “living under a rock” category in the plant-based world. He’s a true rockstar of knowledge and experience.
I signed up for their meal-plan service, not so much for myself (give me a plan and I guarantee I will do the opposite), but to learn from them and to evaluate their service for my students and clients.
And the thought, design, and philosophy that runs through their offering was truly impressive. So I decided to get them on the horn (isn’t that more poetic than “we Skyped”?) to find out what they were thinking.
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In our conversation, we covered:
Sid’s diet-led recovery from asthma
not being successful as a nutritionist, and what it taught him
why “Biggest Losers” inevitably gain the weight back
why people want meal plans (I thought of one reason, but was surprised to hear the second)
meal plans vs decision fatigue and conscious incompetence
habit change: willpower taxation vs repetition
“sleep in your running clothes”
the wrong way to go about habit change: “take on too much and burn out too fast”
lions don’t have to decide between Italian and Mexican food
the curse of the perfectionist mindset
dramatic change as a trailing indicator of internal transformation
how militancy in diet standards contributes to stress, not health
the difference between an “Earthlings” vegan and a “Forks Over Knives” plant-based eater
clarity: the missing ingredient in motivation
Matt’s stages of dietary change – slow and deliberate and tentative
moderation, license to sin, and appropriate boundaries
Sid’s focus on Natural: “We’re animals dressed up as people”
Life extension hacks vs simple lifestyle changes
the debate about caloric restriction
the key question for changers: “What am I able to take on right now?”
Sid’s 12-banana smoothies and the debate over dietary purity
the other key question for changers: “Does it make me happy?”
and much more…
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Here are three gigs that I do:
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I work with high performing executive teams in organizations — and executive teams that need to become highperforming. My focus is mindset mastery, because it’s our mindsets that either support high performance or get in the way.
At this level, everyone’s got the skills and experience to excel and contribute at the highest level. What holds people back is mindset stuff: specifically the triggers that get them out of creative engagement and into fight-or-flight defensiveness.
My practice is all about teaching people to respond differently to those triggers by updating old maps — essentially removing the glitches that the triggers grab onto.
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We reverse engineer the presenting problems — too much work and not enough time, underperforming employees and teams, maddening organizational inefficiencies, etc — and identify and rewire the suboptimal mindsets that are behind those problems.
The work is all about updating your mental maps so your actions and responses are always appropriate, proportionate, and strategic.
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Well, that’s what Peter Bregman and I claim in our provocative book of that title.
What we really mean is, you can bring out the best in the people around you. If you think you’re powerless to help people change, it’s because you’ve been going about it the wrong way.
The Plant Yourself Podcast theme music, “Dance of Peace (Sabali Don),” is generously provided by Will Ridenour, a kora player from North Carolina who has trained with top Senegalese musicians.
It can be found on his first CD, titled Will Ridenour.
You can learn about Will, listen to more tracks, and buy music on his website, WillRidenour.com.
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2 comments on “Matt Frazier and Sid Garza-Hillman on the Sane and Happy Path to Change: PYP 154”
Howard,
What a great stories, love podcasts like these.
Thank You for another informative podcast; keep them coming.