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Playing the Long Game: Dorie Clark on PYP 522

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Dorie Clark is a leadership and communication coach, author, executive educator at Duke University, Broadway producer, theology student, political operative, stand-up comic, and so much more.

Originally, I thought we'd talk about her latest book, The Long Game: How to Be a Long-term Thinker in a Short-term World.

Which we do. But we also get into much more…

One of the charming things about Dorie is her fascination with other people. That comes through in this conversation, where she ends up interviewing me nearly as much as I interview her.

We discuss our respective childhood sports histories, the pros and cons of being highly competitive (I was; she wasn't), and how we can balance the desire to excel with the values of a fulfilling and connected life.

Plus our shared love of religious history and what each of us learned from our studies. And how both the Gutenberg Bible and Dorie's first work in journalism were both funded by the porn industry.

Among the insights Dorie shared:

“It's really hard to be the best, but it's surprisingly easy to be ONE of the best.”

“You can rent Carnegie Hall.” (ie there's more than one way to succeed)

I'm still chewing on both of those.

I hope our freewheeling conversation inspires you to think differently and more creatively as well.

Links

Dorie Clark's website

The Long Game: How to Be a Long-term Thinker in a Short-term World

Dorie's TEDx Talk: The real reason you feel so busy (and what to do about it)

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